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El Paso Shooting

There's a lot of misinformation going around about this shooting. Some of it is blatant lies, some of it is just confusion.

But most of all, I'd like to offer my condolences to the victims and the families of the victims in El Paso. This one hit a little bit closer to home for me. I thought at first it was in the El Paso Walmart I was in a few months ago, but that one was several miles up the road in West El Paso. Still, eerily similar.

My goals, first and foremost, are to spread the truth, clear up misconception, and attempt to understand the shooter's motivations. There is a growing amount of support for shootings like this one. But it's very small, and it's not all Trump supporters as the media would lead you to believe. I also think that the shooters have many legitimate complaints that are not being addressed and pushed under the rug. The majority of shootings like this do not seem to be done by insane people, as evidenced by their writing. The motives as rationally based for the most part, which is why these are planned out, usually posted on 4chan or 8chan, and not random acts of violence. Many of them are for accelerationism as well, and I would say much of the media is too, whether directly or inadvertently.

Manifesto

This is geared mostly around the manifesto. Let me start with what I believe to be the original 8chan post.

Here's a screenshot from the only archive I've found. Which, yes, looks to be an archive of an archive.

Screenshot of https://archive.li/OEVeT

I believe the dates/times are in UTC.

The first post lists the shooter's name in the filename. P. (Patrick) Crusius. I do not have that first file. What I found circulating yesterday were two versions of the manifesto. Both were screenshots of 4 pages put together in a 2x2 panel (the manifesto is 4 pages long). The first one had a background with a hand drawn naked guy's crotch and a gun. The other was easier on the eyes, just a white background. I think someone on 8chan or 4chan put the naked guy in the background of the manifesto, it doesn't line up with the page lines in the ones I've seen.

I only have the second file, The Inconvenient Truth.pdf. The first and second files are both PDFs. Looking at the size difference, the first could have a small picture or two in it. But I am not really sure. He also says the second one is his manifesto. The third is a video.

8chan includes the SHA256SUM in the linked filename, so even web archives are reliable in telling you if you have the original file that was linked to in the archive. In this case, the copy I found (from web.archive.org) showed the same SHA256SUM. You can also see my Decensor link looks the same, just doesn't have ".pdf" at the end.

With that out of the way, I believe that this is the manifesto. Could it still be a false flag? Absolutely. Do I think so? No.

Here's another analysis of the posts.

False flag or not?

Indicators of false flag

  • No mention of Jews in the manifesto. I would say most people with white nationalist views are fairly anti-Jew, in general. (Although Tarrant didn't in his much, either...)
  • I wouldn't put it past people to try and frame events like these.
  • I'm not sure of any others.

Indicators it was real

  • Manifesto timeline.
  • Way the manifesto reads.
  • Manifesto is not particularly partisan. If I were false flagging something like this, I would praise Trump in it.
  • Arrest photos.
  • No particularly media coverage from what I saw. They were also very slow on the draw to mention motivations or the manifesto, at least on Fox.

These are mostly my opinions, make up your own mind.

My own bias

I want to make this fairly clear and be honest with everyone.

  • I have views that many people would consider to be white nationalist to a degree.
  • I voted for Trump.
  • I do not think Trump is a white nationalist.
  • I think this shooter obviously shows a degree of white nationalism.
  • While I loathe the modern day GOP to an extent, this has nothing to do with it.
  • I do not think this is a false flag. I do not think that other than accelerationism (which I have very mixed feelings on), this does anything to support my "cause".
  • I also think of all of the stated parties and views, these are gross oversimplications. Reality is much more complicated than Nazis vs Republicans vs whatever. White nationalism and mass killings are two different ideas. White separation and violence are two different ideas. Race realism and white nationalism are two different ideas.
  • I think that more attacks like this will happen in the future. Combined with Antifa attacks and media polarization, it will likely spart a race-based civil war.
  • I will not give up my guns and my right to defend myself and others who I care about.

Media response

Beto's Response

O'ROURKE: I'm- I'm saying that President Trump has a lot to do with what happened in El Paso yesterday. Anybody who begins their campaign for the presidency by calling Mexican immigrants rapists and criminals. Anyone who as president describes asylum seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border as an infestation or an invasion or animals. Anyone who describes those who do not match the majority of this country as somehow inherently dangerous or defective, sows the kind of fear, the kind of reaction that we saw in El Paso yesterday. So the answer, Major, is- is yes, but it is also something that is much larger than this president and persisted here before his administration. It's up to all of us to put an end to this racism and make sure that we don't just tolerate our differences, but as we've shown here in El Paso, we embrace them as the very source of our strength and our success. And yes also our safety and our security.

The Forward's opinion article

He also spoke approvingly of President Trump, especially the “send her back” chants directed at Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

My opinion of the Forward and Beto's response

I would say The Forward's article even on the surface is downright insulting and sensationalist. Beto's is much less so.

I believe both are fake news.

Quote from the shooter's manifesto.

My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.

Wrapping up

I recommend that you read the manifesto for yourself. It's not all that long. It may help you understand the mindset of these people. Understanding that mindset is possibly the only real cure. Obviously there are many other aspects that go into this. I think that the biggest danger is that these views are so socially unacceptable that many only have them online. None of their friends share the views. None of their family. Many won't even talk about it. While they make many reasonable assessments of present day reality, their isolation tends to draw them to an extreme. Was this the case with Patrick yesterday? I am not sure.

The inability to discuss these topics tends to eliminate the middle ground. Somone who may not have any true friends sees the glorification of Tarrant (Chirstchurch shooter) on the imageboards and they see it as a holy, rational cause. I made a video discussing Tarrant's shooting, which I think is very similar.

If you are disillusioned with the dwindling numbers of the white race, the numerous double standards in society, the hatred against whites, and Jews Jewing, please consider contacting me. I'm happy to talk it over. I probably understand, for the most part, how you think and how you feel. While I don't entirely know what the solution is, I don't think that this is it.